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'Reply of Mr John Gunning, William Walker, Thomas Keate to John Hunter’s address to the Governors of the hospital’, 27 May 1793

Two draft statements, including an undated draft , regarding the dispute between Hunter and the hospital on pupils’ fees. The statement addresses in detail each of the charges made by Hunter, and responds to them over 23 pages. Written in one main hand, with sections crossed out and annotations in another hand.

Draft 12-page statement titled 'To the Committee (at St George’s Hospital) appointed to examine the Laws relative to the Surgeons Pupils, and to consider of the best methods of imptoving their Education. We the undersign’d be leave to make the following Statement’, signed by Gunning, Walker and Keate and dated 27 May 1793. In two hands, with annotations in pencil in a third hand.

Note signed ‘C.H.’ [Charles Hawkins] describing the statement as ‘Reply of Mr John Gunning, William Walker, Thomas Keate, surgeons to St George’s Hospital, to John Hunter’s address to the Governors of the hospital dated February 28, 1793. The corrections are in the hand & writing of Mr Thomas Keate, only just elected surgeon = 11. May 1792. Hunter had been elected on 9. Dec 1768’. Annotated in pencil in another hand ‘Handwriting of Wm Walker’

‘A few hints suggested by Mr Keate for the consideration of Messrs Gunning & Walker’, 27 May 1793

Keate states that surgeons are expected to visit their patients at least twice a week as well as spend time afterwards ‘for conversation & explanation to the Pupils’; that the ‘old custom of committing on a certain day of the week to be revived’, with operations to be performed on a certain day; an anatomy lecturer should be found for the hospital; ‘he should be required to examine Morbid Bodies, & report the appearance on dissection’ in a book for the use of the physicians, surgeons and pupils; the pupils’ fees would not be of ‘sufficient indemnification’, but they should be paid £200, excluding pupils’ fees; the surgeons should give one lecture each week on patient cases in the summer, and in the winter on ‘the Dead Subject’; lectures on the principles and practice of surgery ‘would be useful’ but the surgeons ‘may not be prepared for such a course’; lectures on chemistry, practice of physic or materia medica and midwifery can be given by ‘persons attached to the interest of the Hospital & connected with the medical men belonging to it’

Letter from John Hunter to the governors of St George’s Hospital, 28 Feb 1793

Printed letter addressed to the governors of St George’s Hospital, signed by John Hunter at Leicester-square 28 Feb 1793.

Hunter writes that when he was appointed surgeon at the hospital, he wished to extend his knowledge, to be ‘more useful to mankind’, and to improve his pupils’ knowledge; he notes that prior to his arrival, the senior surgeons at the time, Mr Hawkins [Caesar Hawkins] and Bromfield [William Bromfeild] had received their education ‘prior to the period of improvement in this country’; he notes that other hospitals were beginning ‘to participate [in] the improving spirit of the times’ and to give lectures not only in surgery, but also ‘in every branch of the healing art’; he states that he ‘paid more attention to the pupils than had been usual’, which made him a popular instructor; he had a meeting with other surgeons on how to address the pupils’ complaints of leaving for other hospitals and that the number of pupils at St George’s was diminishing; he allowed St George’s pupils to attend his lectures on surgery ‘for some time after, gratis’, as the other surgeons were not giving lectures; he describes conflicts and discussions with the other surgeons; he says he began to treat his pupils as the other surgeons did, with the consequence that there were fewer pupils; when his business grew and his health grew weaker, he was given as assistant his brother-in-law, Mr Home [Everard Home], who he supported when a vacancy for surgeoncy at the hospital came up; he says that looking into the laws of the hospital he found that ‘the division of the money, paid by the pupils, was arbitrary’ which did not encourage some of the surgeons to do their share of the work; he wrote a letter to his colleagues on 9 Jul 1792 regarding settling the accounts on pupils’ pay, with a response declaring their ‘entire disapprobation of [Hunter’s] proposal’; he states that the number of pupils who had since 1770 studied under Mr Gunning [John Gunning] was 103, and the number of his own pupils was 449, and the number with the other three surgeons altogether 284; he argues that the laws have not been adhered to, with regard to pupil numbers and their fees, and that a larger number of pupils ‘increases the reputation of an hospital’; he argues the dispute is a matter of ‘general interest’ and that he stands for ‘the good of mankind, the improvement of the healing art, and the character of the Hospital’

Papers relating to John Hunter

The collection relates to Hunter’s dispute with St George’s Hospital and the division of pupils’ fees among the surgeons, which Hunter perceived as unfair, arguing he brought in more pupils than the other surgeons. The dispute culminated in a meeting in Oct 1793 at the hospital, during which Hunter suffered a heart attack and died.

In addition to the papers relating to the dispute, there are some additional notes, some collected by Charles Hawkins and some by George Edwards. These include copies of two letters from John Hunter’s pupil James Williams to his sister, describing working with Hunter, dissections and the work of the so-called ‘Resurrection Men’, and describing Hunter’s death. These were acquired apparently from a descendant of Williams by Edwards; the location of the original letters is unknown.

List of items

List of items with a note from Davies asking his mother to send them to him, accompanied by a list ‘sent to John Jan 7. 1839[?]’, including a claret jug, 6 caraffes, spoons, wine glasses, napkins etc.

Papers of Harold Lambert

The papers include material relating to epidemiology and smallpox in particular, including correspondence, a notebook, smallpox testing kit and publications relating to smallpox in the 1960s.

Lambert, Harold

Papers of Hamid Ghodse

Includes

  • Papers relating to the International Centre for Drug Policy
  • Personal certificates, appraisals, CVs
  • Obituaries
  • Papers relating to courses and conferences including reports, reviews, manuals
  • Publications
  • Correspondence
  • Photographs
  • Reports by Alexander Hosie on opium production in China

Ghodse, Hamid

Personal papers and correspondence

  • GB 406 PP
  • Collection

Collections of personal papers relating to former members of staff or students of St George's

St George's Hospital Medical School, London

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